Episode #38: Leadership for Flourishing, with Emmie Bidston and Dr. Katy Granville-Chapman

We interview Emmie Bidston and Dr. Katy Granville-Chapman, authors of Leader: Know, love and inspire your people (2020), about leadership for flourishing. Our conversation focuses on what makes a great leader and how to promote flourishing through leadership.

Emmie is an Associate Fellow of the Oxford Character Project and a Senior Fellow of the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard’s Flourishing Network. Emmie studied Economics at the University of Cambridge before working for the UK civil service in a range of areas from education to contingency planning. She is currently head of Economics at Wellington College and Director of the Wellington Leadership and Coaching Institute. She co-founded a charity to help develop young leaders in Africa and runs conferences, coaching and leadership training for adults and young people.

Katy is an associate fellow of the Oxford Character Project, a Doctoral Teaching Fellow at Oxford University’s Department of Education, a Research Associate at the Oxford University Wellbeing Research Centre, and a Senior Fellow of the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard’s Flourishing Network. She is the co-founder of Global Social Leaders, a movement of young people in 105 countries who design and lead social action projects that make a meaningful change in their communities. Katy is also a Deputy Headteacher at Wellington College, focusing on teacher performance and development, and founder of the Wellington Leadership and Coaching Institute.

Emmie and Katy’s book Leader has been shortlisted for the Business Book Awards ‘leadership book of the future’ and longlisted for the Chartered Management Institute’s Management Book of the Year.

 

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Leader: Know, love and inspire your people (2020)

Leadership for flourishing course, based on the book

Leadership for Flourishing

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Timestamps:

00:00:06 - Introduction to the Episode

00:00:17 - Emmie's Background

00:00:48 - Katy’s Background

00:01:21 - Their book on Leadership for Flourishing

00:02:27 - Guests' Connection with the Hosts

00:03:09 - Guests' Varied Career Paths

00:03:27 - Emmie's Journey to Leadership

00:04:47 - Katy's Military Experience and Leadership Insights

00:06:12 - Katy's Transition into Education and Leadership

00:08:36 - Emmie and Katy's Collaboration

00:09:33 - Overview of their Various Projects

00:10:56 - Katie's Role at Wellington College

00:11:34 - Leadership for Flourishing

00:15:03 - Defining Human Flourishing

00:18:16 - Hedonic vs. Eudaimonic Well-Being

00:22:16 - The Role of Unpleasantness in Flourishing

00:24:03 - What Makes a Great Leader

00:26:01 - Examples of Courageous and Loving Leaders

00:30:38 - The Importance of Authenticity in Leadership

00:32:23 - Developing Character and Virtues

00:34:14 - The Double-Edged Sword of Character Strengths

00:37:49 - The Three Key Lessons for Leaders

00:39:09 - Practical Advice for Leaders

00:41:11 - The Role of Authenticity in Leadership

00:42:37 - Factors for Outstanding Team Performance

00:44:59 - Love as a Central Leadership Skill

00:47:19 - Love's Role in Team Dynamics

00:50:59 - Matthew Lee's Work on Love in Education